Curse

Swehurn · Mar 01, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Mine would be that I HAVE to kill everything on the map..because the one thing I don't kill will have the awesome drop. I go around in circles...checking every place possible for remaning bad guys...just in case. Even though I Know that I'm wasting so much time killing the "little things".. and I could actually be making more money by just rezoning and starting over.

Fist_of_God · Mar 01, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Sorry, but I think its all random, just a dice roll.

SilentAssassin · Mar 01, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

yeah, I also think its random

but then this happend:

my brother did 3 green runs on a row and every time he got a VICTOS blade ...

how you explain that?

Count to Potato · Mar 01, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Luck is a very important thign in this game i believe, you get lucky good for you, you don't you still get 4k so stop whining?

EternalTempest · Mar 01, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fist_of_God

Sorry, but I think its all random, just a dice roll.

Gaile has said that drops are random.

I think that there is anti-farm code the more you stay in the same region, the less number of drops you get but it is random based on "tables" for that monster, area, etc.

I don't know if this is 100% but this appears to be from what I've seen. I have had friends that tell me what others where some are "blesssed" as in stuff droping vs other that get no drops.

aB- · Mar 01, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

The problem with your theory, Narutoscryed, is that you are basing it off of one drop experience. A bigger sample, say 10,000 runs, would show near equal drops for both of you.

Guardian of the Light · Mar 01, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Umm guys are we forgeting a recent farming nerf that decreases the drops you get if you farm the same group of monsters over and over again.

I farm. I get GREAT drops by using a crop rotation technique. Basically you run 1 area then switch where your farming.

For me its:
Wurms-->Hydras---> Griffons(too easy

)--->Gnawl--->Trolls

I plan on adding to the list.

From what I see the more different places you farm the better the drops. So drops for farmers are now more placed on how many areas you can farm. In otherwords SKILL!

However I do notice you get better gold drops if your in a team.

byteme! · Mar 02, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY ANTI-FARMING SHINDIGS. I've played GW for about 5-6 months now and I have yet to see any indication of such issue. I sometimes farms certain locations for days and I admit I don't get green/gold items every run but it remains consistant at about every 2-4 runs I get something.

VitisVinifera · Mar 02, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I'm an avid farmer, and I'm just about at my present goals: I do have about 1300 plats, and all but ten greens out of 86 (they are all cheapies I don't have too), but I mix it up between my monk doing FA/oro runs, my necro being orders in tombs, and my war farming ettins. All are in entirely different areas, and I mix them up, and I can tell when I've farmed with one too much, and when I've cleared things up in different areas to refarm.

I've had horrible streaks, I've had incredibly hot streaks, but they've mostly been average, for me.

Don't get too down, and don't obsess over getting one item or killing one boss.

Sir Skullcrasher · Mar 02, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

I have been farming SF for months and back than i have got lucky where i got 4 to 5 greens per weeks. Than recently, i hit a cold streak. For every run i go to, i never got any greens until last week where i got 2 good greens from SF. I still believed that drops rate is all random and the more you farm, the less chances of you getting something good.

Like ettins farming, first time i been there (1 month ago) i got like 10 gold armors, 14 purple, 6 blues and ever since than i can't get nothing from ettins.

VitisVinifera · Mar 02, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

wow, sir skul, I've only just started farming ettins, and from the start it's been about 10 purple armors for every gold.

doing this in north kryta to the east of asc settlement?

unienaule · Mar 02, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

I don't know if you all weren't aware of this, but aside from a tendency for drops to be POSSIBLY a bit better if you leave the area for 12-24 hours, they're just plain random. That's all there is to it. Random doesn't mean streaks can't happen, it just says they won't happen all the time.

CyberNigma · Mar 02, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

Gaile has said that drops are random.

I think that there is anti-farm code the more you stay in the same region, the less number of drops you get but it is random based on "tables" for that monster, area, etc.

I don't know if this is 100% but this appears to be from what I've seen. I have had friends that tell me what others where some are "blesssed" as in stuff droping vs other that get no drops.

Well I wouldn't bet the bank on that statement. She's getting info from the developers and of course they will think they are right. If you look at the update logs you will see that they've been wrong about loot distribution before. Its obviously more complicated than a random system or they wouldn't have had to correct it already. It's just not something anyone can really prove unless they give us an idea what algorithm is used.

Random would also mean that the rather decent sized group of people I run with (maybe up to 10-20 people) shouldn't be able to predict time and again who's going to get the best drop(s) on a run.

Dazzen · Mar 02, 2006, 11:26 AM // 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by byteme!

I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY ANTI-FARMING SHINDIGS. I've played GW for about 5-6 months now and I have yet to see any indication of such issue. I sometimes farms certain locations for days and I admit I don't get green/gold items every run but it remains consistant at about every 2-4 runs I get something.

Hum, you must have hidden the tips popups then... Especially if you farm the same area over days you're more then likely to trigger the famous 'monster loot is decreased' info tip.

Just put tips back up, continue farming the same whatever zone you do and you'll eventually end up believing in anti-farming.

Poison Ivy · Mar 02, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Sympathy costs but a few clicks of your keyboard.

Cador · Mar 02, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

damn is all i have to say

Diaku Diasho · May 04, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Ok guys I won't tell you my sercret because it took me a little while to crack.
But i give a few clues, as I always and I MEAN always get the best drops. I have 3 spare Pve Chars acting as Storage for me, (extra 45 slots) and 1 is full of rare materials and dyes the other 2 are greens and gold items, 6 are Bulwurks. But here in Point form are some things to think about.
1. In computer programs there is no such thing as 'Random' when the list has conditions.
2. The condition is There has to be a list or (Table of content) where the treasure comes from.
3. If the List is Numbered which makes sense to allocate the diff between rare and common, then
4. the conditions have to match for treasure to be picked in the rare section.
5. Allocation of Table or list must play a part in the build of a map.
6. Alloaction of conditions must play a part in % of the table.
7. If you paste it all together then you can work out what conditions works on what maps to produce high end picks from the treasure table.

Lack of time played or high hours of play has not much to do with this. the equtaion whould be too complex if it was.
Think more towards Total dam + total area + ect ect..... for starters.
Hope this helps.

fb2000 · May 04, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

its random, the whole anti-farm thing the way most ppl mean it is a myth, just boosted by ppl who are feeling they have very bad luck and just wont admit it.. personally ive heard quite wild speculations on when u get anti-farm kick in, what are the consequences, and how to avoid (and most make no sense, plz admit it..)

the REAL anti-farm which ive seen and experienced myself, is when you just enter and kill the first group of monsters. You DO get a window pop up, telling you, that if you continueously kill just the first enemies on the map and rezone, your drops will get lowered. Play the areas the normal way to have full drops again.

I have only received this message TWICE in my gw career, once on minos at elona (was trying to collect horns, needed cloth back then

), and the other when i got my lvl20 tyrian warrior in the Tutorial section of Cantha (that monastery thing, went outside and after the first monsta i got the same message).

how bad is it after getting the message? before that, 15-16 minos used to drop at least 10-12 piles of stuff (gold/items). afterwards, same amount of minos dropped like 1-2 piles..

make your own conclusions, and dont believe everyone is conspiring to make u feel miserable

just call me jimmy · May 04, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

One thing that I don;t understand is the 1st paragraph of this thread.
The Srongbox has not been around in Months!!! (Unless this is another so closely guarded secret that people are abusing). If so I completly hope your drops continue to suck!!!

avoll · May 04, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

I would have to agree
it seems as though if your not on for a while you get better drops
could jusr be my bad luck but it sure seems to be linked to not playing for a week or whatever